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On a crisp Saturday afternoon in October,
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Ohio State hosted Maryland for a game at Ohio Stadium.
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It was third and 10 for the Buckeyes
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just minutes into the first quarter
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when the ref suddenly blew the whistle.
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A small drone had started hovering above the Shoe,
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and it's 100,000 plus fans.
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Eventually, the drone moved on,
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the game quickly resumed,
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and the Buckeyes won by 20.
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But that wasn't the end of the story.
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Police found the man piloting the drone,
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and he now faces multiple charges
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for flying it without a license
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and in a place where it isn't allowed.
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Drones are still pretty new,
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and most people don't know the rules around their use.
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Truth is these devices are only getting more common,
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and they're being used for all sorts of interesting reasons.
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In today's episode, we're going to talk all about drones,
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what's so exciting about this technology
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and what sorts of problems could it solve?
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I'm Amanda DeJonge,
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and you're listening to "Now at Ohio State."
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We talk with researchers, innovators,
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and bold thinkers who look at our world,
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see what the real challenges are,
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and create the solutions that people need now.
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Drones have become popular for hobbyists,
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and they've been used by the military for quite a while,
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but that's just scratching the surface of what they can do.
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Here at Ohio State, we have a whole lab dedicated to drones.
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It was founded by Matthew McCrink,
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a research scientist
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at Ohio State's Aerospace Research Center,
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and an assistant professor of mechanical
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and aerospace engineering.
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He talks with our Ross Bishoff
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about the work his lab is doing,
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the future of drones,
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and why they're not delivering our pizzas just yet.
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All right, Matt,
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thank you so much for being with us today.
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So we visited your lab as a team,
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and it was like walking into an industrial art shop
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meets a high tech facility.
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What's it like for you to show up to that every day
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and know that this is your lab?
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Well, hey, thank you.
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Glad to be here.
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And I'm going to steal that description of our lab,
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for starters.
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I think that's great.
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And I'm glad that came through
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because our lab is really focused on taking
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fundamental ideas and principles in aerospace
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and actually getting them to fly,
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taking that sort of next logical step
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of getting it off of the drawing boards
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and actually getting it into the air.
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How would you define a drone
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or an unmanned aerial vehicle?
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What would be your definition for that?
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Oh, you're gonna get phone calls on this one.
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So this is a bit of a,
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it's evolved over time,
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and I think to anybody who's listening to this,
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when they think drone,
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they probably have an image in their head,
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and I will tell you that image that may be in their head
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is different than the one that would've been in their head
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5 to 10 years ago, right?
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So, this has been an evolution of not only the term,
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but also how people have perceived
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what these vehicles are and what they did.
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So generally, 5 to 10 years ago, when you said drone,
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the typical thoughts were
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maybe slightly more militaristic, right?
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So thinking something that
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the Army and Air Force was involved in,
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and then in that same sort of time window is when
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the civilian applications of drones
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and the sort of hobby drones came into our lexicon, right?
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And we started to be able to buy 'em off of Amazon
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and out of the stores, right?
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And it was something that everybody can sort of engage with.
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When people started buying 'em outta the stores,
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I think their relationship to what a drone was
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changed very quickly,
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and it went from this idea that it was this
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military asset to something that you bought
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almost a toy out of a catalog.
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And I would say the reality is really
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the technology between the two are very similar, right?
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But the perception is very different, right?
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And so we've kind of walked this tightrope of
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defining them sort of based on their mission set, right?
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So that word drone now encapsulates
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all of those different capabilities
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from the very, very small things you can buy now
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at gas stations, I just saw the other day,
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which is crazy to me as a researcher in this field,
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all the way up to the very, what we call group five,
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which are gonna be something
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that's actually the same size as a 737.
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And your students,
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they learn how to create every piece of a drone, correct?
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What is the student experience like in your lab?
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Yes, they love me and hate me for it all at the same time.
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Yeah, so, I've long advocated that
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one of the expectations of being in our lab is that
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you're not a user.
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You're a creator of these technologies, right?
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So almost nothing of what we have
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is something that we bought off the shelf.
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And it's usually not just because I'm being difficult
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or hard on them,
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but it's because to really push the boundaries,
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they really need to understand
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the nuts and bolts of what's going on under the hood, right?
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And very little of what you can buy off the shelf
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allows you to do that and push buttons in the right way
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that sort of builds knowledge.
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I mean, even as something as simple as,
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for a lot of my students that come in
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that don't have a great,
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or a lot of background in electronics,
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how to hook up an LED, right?
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Get it to turn on, get it to blink,
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let's start there, right?
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And then take that knowledge
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and evolve it to the point that they're competent
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and actually doing inertial measurements
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and all these other sort of things
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that actually make these vehicles fly.
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What I think is really interesting about your lab,
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is you sort of,
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at least from my perspective,
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there's sort of two paths you go down,
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and one is creating really cool drones,
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but then the other is creating a safe airspace
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for the future of these drones.
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Sure, so we've talked a little bit about
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the drones themselves,
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and I think that's a very tangible part of the project,
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but there's this larger question that gets asked,
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and when you mentioned, you know, what is a drone,
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and I mentioned that people
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started buying them outta the stores
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and going out and flying 'em,
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I think very quickly they realized
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there are actual rules about where you can fly,
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what you should be doing is,
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what your responsibility is as a pilot are.
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And very quickly what became evident is that
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there really weren't a lot of rules on the regulatory side,
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this would come from a body like the FAA
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to really govern how best do we utilize this new technology
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and capability,
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and what are going to be the rules about where you can fly,
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how you can fly, and those sorts of things.
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And so what this setup was what we call
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a center of excellence,
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which is a consortium of universities
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that are essentially selected
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to help the FAA answer those questions, right?
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Where can you fly?
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What can you fly?
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What are the capabilities, et cetera, et cetera.
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And so one of those early questions that got asked was
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if you are flying a drone over a large group of people
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and think people wanna do aerial shots of a stadium
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or a football game, OSU game, et cetera,
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what ought to be the capabilities of that drone?
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How large can it be, right?
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And what are the safety requirements
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for if it falls outta the sky?
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What sort of kinetic energy can it have when it impacts?
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What are the limits of what we can do?
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And so a lot of this was initially answered by modeling.
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So we set up computer models to try to simulate
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what happens to a drone that's falling out of the sky?
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And this evolved into, well, okay, prove it, right?
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And so we built,
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I used my siege weapons 101 knowledge to build
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a large catapult system to actually catapult
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full scale drones into crash test dummies
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to really look at sort of what are the actual mechanics
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of that impact scenario?
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How do the drones actually maneuver and behave?
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What happens after the impact, et cetera, et cetera.
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But one of the things that came outta that is that
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crash test dummies really are not designed
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to take top-down head impacts,
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like what you might see from a drone.
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So again, the project evolved as we learned more,
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and the question came
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can we do this on a real cadaver?
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Is there anyone in this consortium of universities
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who has that capability?
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And again, I'll speak praises to Ohio State.
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I think one of the most fascinating aspects
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of this large university is that there are
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just an enormous amount of researchers
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that do a lot of really cool things here.
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And lo and behold,
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we have one of the preeminent cadaver testing facilities
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in the country.
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And so a quick phone call made fast friends
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with some of the researchers associated with that group.
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We had a proposal in within a couple of weeks to the FAA
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and we actually did that work.
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And so we partnered with them.
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They brought over cadavers to our facility,
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and we were able to conduct the test necessary again,
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to inform now what those rules are
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for how and where you can fly vehicles in public.
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So that's, I think, a really great exemplar of
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how that research, it evolves based on new knowledge
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and new understanding as we go through the process,
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but has a direct tie into public policy,
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and can help shape where and what we can do
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and how we can utilize the national airspace.
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So I think it's a really neat
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kind of a closed loop project there.
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And on the drone side itself,
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you have some fascinating stuff happening.
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You've set world records.
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You're talking about going to Mars.
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I mean, let's, first of all, just kind of,
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we'll take a step back,
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but I mean, you have a great definition-
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Pretty broad portfolio there.
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But you have a great definition
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of the trajectory of your lab.
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Start there.
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Sure, so the way that I always describe our lab is
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fundamental to flight test.
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And so it's really taking those fundamental concepts
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in aerospace engineering
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that are gonna allow us to improve performance,
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safety, reliability of these vehicles,
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and really push the envelope in terms of what they can do,
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and actually maturing them
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and developing the testing procedures
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and all the science that's required
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to actually get them to flight, right?
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And prove it via flight test.
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So why would we want a drone on Mars?
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So drones are a natural expansion of capability
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over what we've seen with the ground-based rovers.
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Ground-based rovers that have been up there,
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and NASA sent several up there over the years,
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generally move very slowly
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and have sort of a limited range
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over which they can do sampling,
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or execute their missions.
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Drones by virtue of flying,
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can cover a much larger area much more quickly,
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and are kind of a natural partner to
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that ground-based mission to allow
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more comprehensive sort of mission planning,
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and telling that ground rover where to go
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and where may be interesting
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to actually take a look at, right?
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So there's a natural synergy between those two capabilities.
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And you have students in your lab actually working on
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components of a drone that one day
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may actually partner with NASA and get up there, right?
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Correct, so we are working on the blade designs right now
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for what these rotor blades are actually gonna look like
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that, again, allow a vehicle to operate at
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100,000 foot altitude.
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than what a normal propeller
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or normal rotor blade actually looks like.
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So rather than a nice smooth curved surface
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that they're faceted, right?
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So there are a lot of flat plates
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that kind of stick together,
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and you can think about it,
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this not a direct equivalency,
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but they actually share more in common with
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things like dragonfly wings
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and insect wings than they do a 747 wing.
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Down here on Earth
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I think a lot of us thought by now
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we'd have drones delivering our pizzas, and our shoes,
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and flying all over, and we haven't seen that.
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I'm still waiting for it, yes.
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You're still waiting for it.
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I'm still waiting for it.
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So talk about why we haven't seen that yet.
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That's a great question,
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and when I sort of originally got involved in this field
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that was a promise and that was the thing
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that was going to happen in the next year,
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and that was close to 10 years ago, right?
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And we're still not there yet.
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And what I think happened is
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I think a little bit of that optimism ran into reality.
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And the challenge with that is is that
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you're not the only one out there.
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You're not the only thing out there, right?
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As our research lab,
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one of the major programs that we have
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is actually in partnership with the state of Ohio
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to develop what are called
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Uncrewed Traffic Management System, UTM Systems.
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for the low altitude airspace
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where we see these drones maneuvering, right?
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So how do you keep these vehicles away from each other,
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and away from everybody else that's in the airspace,
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and orchestrate it in such a way
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that you don't sort of unduly impose
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delays on these vehicles.
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All right, Matt, thank you so much.
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All this work is fascinating.
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Thank you so much for doing this today.
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Yeah, thank you.
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I really appreciated the opportunity to chat with you,
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and I really am excited about this space,
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and I think over the next couple years
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we'll start to see more of this in the airspace
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and that's a real exciting thing.
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There's so much cutting edge research around drones
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and it only makes sense that students
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are at the forefront of this work.
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Enter Adithya Ramaswami and Jack Murray.
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They graduated from Ohio State just this year
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and in their time on campus, they founded ParaWave,
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a company that is developing drones
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to help first responders in emergencies.
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Adithya and Jack speak with Ross
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about their company's vision,
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how they got started,
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and how Ohio State's entrepreneurial community
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was key to their success.
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Adithya Ramaswami, Jack Murray, team ParaWave,
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thanks for joining us for this.
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Thank you for having us.
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Thank you for having us.
Yeah, yeah.
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I remember in, I believe it was April, 2022,
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I attended the final pitch session of the first cohort
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of the President's Buckeye Accelerator.
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And one of the projects that just fascinated me
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was what became the ParaWave team,
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this idea that drones can save lives.
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Jack, explain to us what exactly this project is.
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Yeah, imagine that you're at home
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enjoying a peaceful evening with your family,
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and suddenly a fire erupts,
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and you're thrown into a panic as you try to make sure
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that your families, your loved ones,
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everyone at your home is safe.
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A house fire occurs every 90 seconds every single year,
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and a fire doubles in size every 30 seconds as well,
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so there's really no time to waste.
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And for us, that's where ParaWave comes in.
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ParaWave is a company engineering drone technology
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for first responders in the autonomous realm,
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so that way they can get a bird's eye view of an emergency,
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so that way they can save time
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and focus on what matters most, saving lives.
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I honestly didn't know drones were capable of this.
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Can you explain what that first product will do
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for first responders?
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So we've been hard at work over the past year.
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For context, we just graduated from Ohio State
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with our bachelor's in aerospace engineering.
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Throughout that year,
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thanks to the President's Buckeye Accelerator Program
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where we received really invaluable mentorship
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as well as $50,000 in funding,
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we were able to kick off a project
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where we developed the first version of our drone,
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and while out in the market
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working with first responders on the ground
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in the local Franklin County and wider Ohio areas,
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a lot of really big key needs that they emphasized were
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custom tailoring solutions for them
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and specifically applications for inspection.
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So things like, we want to have a camera on board,
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we wanna be able to use it for
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search and rescue operations, especially,
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as well as fire operations.
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We need a camera that can get really good resolution,
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can zoom in really well without losing resolution,
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and can have a great thermal sensor on board too.
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And with our first product, it'll be manually piloted.
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And then in the upcoming years
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we are looking to develop autonomously flying drones
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where the drone is able to figure out by itself
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what is the best flight path that I need to take,
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being able to process the images and videos that it sees,
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and then pick out critical information.
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So that's the larger vision for ParaWave
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to engineer autonomous drone solutions
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for the emergency response space.
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And something that we've seen resonate really well
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with the public safety space has been
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the ability to operate autonomously
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while also identifying key information.
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So as an emergency evolves over time,
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how can we pull the most important analytics
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that are going to matter the most to first response teams,
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so that way they can save time and analysis
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so that way they can also be best informed
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as they work on the ground.
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So we're talking about a fire erupts,
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these drones can fly out immediately
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and help them assess the situation
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so that when they arrive
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they have a really good understanding of,
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okay, who's in the house, where are they?
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Talk about what these firefighters are really like,
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dial down in on what they can get from this.
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Yeah, there was actually a really impactful story
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that we had first heard from a battalion chief
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out of Columbus Division of Fire
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when we had first started this venture about a year ago.
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And it was about the paint plant explosion
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that had happened, I believe it was,
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and Adithya, correct me if I'm wrong here,
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I think it was about two or three years ago from now.
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During that paint plant explosion,
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they had to have, if I remember correctly,
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hazmat on scene as well as fire.
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They were searching through after an explosion,
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the rubble of a building for three missing individuals
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that they were not able to get out of the scene.
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They were able to save a good number of people,
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but they were still missing three.
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They were searching throughout the span of the evening
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and the night.
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They were able to find two individuals.
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However, the third unfortunately was found deceased
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later that next morning.
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When we were speaking with that battalion chief
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he had brought up that if they had had a drone on scene
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that night with a thermal camera,
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it would've greatly aided in the search and rescue process
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to identify where those people could have been in rubble.
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So when you're seeing a thermal image,
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you can see potentially through objects
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depending on the temperature differential.
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And that's something that really greatly aids
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in that search and rescue for missing persons,
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especially in those kinds of emergencies.
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And especially in ones where when hazmat is involved,
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it's so hard to safely ensure that first responders can be
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on the ground working to save lives,
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or on the ground even just searching for people.
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So for us, that was one of the first things
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that we had heard in the first response space about drones
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from people just in the Franklin County area.
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And that really, really fired us up to be like,
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"Hey, we need to take our technology
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and help out as much as we can here
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so that way we can help save lives."
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And it's not just firefighters, right?
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I probably should say that there's a whole...
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Tell me everyone that this could benefit, Adithya.
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Yeah, the emergency response space
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requires coordination between
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multiple different types of agencies.
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It's fire departments, police departments,
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Homeland Security, FBI.
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It is a very versatile space.
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When we had competed in President's Buckeye Accelerator,
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we had the name Firefight Arrow.
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We both had a ton of passion in the drone space.
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We said, "All right, we want to do something meaningful
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with our passion for drone technology."
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And then we solidified on
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let's do something for the emergency response space.
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Let's take our passion for drone technology
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and see if, is there a way that
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we can support first responders?
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So we said, you know, maybe fire departments
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probably could utilize drones with thermal imaging.
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And then we started meeting with a few departments
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to get their input.
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And we had competed under the name Firefight Arrow
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in President's Buckeye Accelerator.
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But as more and more conversations happen,
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we received a lot of feedback
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of the emergency response space,
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there is a lot of cross collaboration between agencies.
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So then that got us thinking,
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let's rebrand the name ParaWave to engineer drone technology
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for the entire emergency response base.
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And that was a huge learning curve for us too,
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just of developing an understanding of
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what is the emergency response base,
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'cause neither Jack or I have any first responder experience
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and the departments that we worked with in Franklin County
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have been absolutely phenomenal,
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and so supportive,
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and really the people that we've spoken with,
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the feedback that they've given, the support,
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the positive reaction that they've had of,
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hey, there's these two students that are
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looking to start a business
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to engineer drone technology for us,
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just the amount of positivity that we received
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has been invaluable and we're so grateful.
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ParaWave also proud to be located in
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Columbus, Ohio officially,
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and is looking to be in Ohio for the foreseeable future.
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We're Buckeye strong
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and we're excited to be doing what we're doing.
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What is really interesting to me,
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and I think it shows
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how great the President's Buckeye Accelerator is,
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is it really helps you guys hone in on an idea
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because where you see where you guys are now
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wasn't the first idea a laser light show with drones
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or something?
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I mean, probably at the time,
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it seemed like an awesome idea,
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and to see how far you've come.
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Talk about that first idea.
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The idea that we had had at the time was
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drone light shows, which are very cool.
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A lot of people have seen 'em at the Olympics.
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They're really mesmerizing.
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And we got into the Accelerator under that idea.
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Got in, evaluated it for about a couple weeks,
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sat down with it, really considered it,
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and we're like, you know what?
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There's a mix of things here
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for why we think that we should pivot.
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The biggest one for us being we wanna take our technology
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and apply it to something that we're passionate about.
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We're extremely grateful
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to the President's Buckeye Accelerator Program
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for helping guide us through that decision making process.
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Because for us, we had never built a business before.
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We had never had to handle a pivot
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in a business idea either.
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And I think it was a mix of our passion
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as well as the encouragement from our mentors
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in the Accelerator through Boost Camp that really guided us
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through that as effectively as possible.
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And I'm glad that we did
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because we saw some really good traction
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immediately after consistently, and continued on through,
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and ended up becoming part of the first cohort.
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Jack, what advice would you give for a future student
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or maybe a younger current student at Ohio State?
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Yeah, I think the biggest thing that I can say is
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don't underestimate what you can learn and try new things.
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When I had started at Ohio State, I originally came in
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in a completely different major from where I started,
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pharmacy, and realized that,
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while it was a really great field, it wasn't for me.
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Moved over to aerospace, tried something new
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in a realm that I was passionate about
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to learn more things about it.
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And since then it's stuck.
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Went into the drone space and again, took the leap of faith,
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and since then it stuck.
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Took a leap of faith into the realm of entrepreneurship,
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and again, it stuck.
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And I think the biggest thing that I've learned
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throughout all of this has been
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that there is so many different routes for opportunity
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that you might not traditionally see
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if you go down the beaten path.
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So don't be afraid to go off every once in a while
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and try something new.
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What about you, Adithya?
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Yeah, for me, I would encourage students to
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step into the unknown, step outside your comfort zone.
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And similar to Jack, I started off pre-Med
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my first year of college,
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and then found my way into aerospace engineering.
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I'd also encourage students to
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let passion drive their decisions.
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Once they found something
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that they're really passionate about,
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hone in on that passion.
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Let that be your center in terms of your driving force
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and opportunities that you explore
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or maybe opportunities that you say no to,
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to really hone in on that.
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And the last thing I'd say is
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be fearless in paving your own path.
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That's something that I learned.
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And I would say my time at Ohio State
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has been transformational,
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and I'm grateful to be a Buckeye
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and a proud Buckeye for life.
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Well, Jack and Adithya, thank you so much for doing this.
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This has been incredible to talk to you both.
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Thank you so much for having us.
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(upbeat music)
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New technologies always take time to catch on,
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and sometimes they end up being used
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for purposes nobody thought of.
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It's safe to say that one way or another,
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drones will now be a part of our future.
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Maybe one day we'll get used to looking up
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and seeing them there hovering wherever we are.
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We're not quite there yet.
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But Buckeyes like Matthew McCrink, Adithya Ramaswami,
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and Jack Murray are pushing the boundaries
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of this technology in fascinating ways.
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"Now at Ohio State" is produced by
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For more information, visit us at go.osu.edu/now.
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